hello, everyone i'm eric bolling along with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams dana perino and greg guttfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five".." >> some big 2016 developments today, a tenth republican has entered the contest, a man who tried once already in 2012 but fizzled out following a debate gaffe and other stumbles. rick approximate perry came out swinging earlier in his home state of texas. >> we're at the end of an era of failed leadership. we have been led by a divider who has sliced and diced the electorate pitting american against american for political purposes. >> and then he made it official.
>> the fundamental nature of this country is our people never stay knocked town. we get back up. we don't have to apologize for american exceptionalism or western values. we don't have to resign ourselves to debt decay and slow growth. we have the power to make things new again. to project america's strength again and to get our economy going again. and that is exactly why today i am running for the presidency of the united states of america. >> and jeb bush a man who hopes to beat perry tweeted that his announcement will happen on june 15th fronting the donald who may or may not announce the very following day. kg your thoughts on a passionate rick perry. >> i like t he was fired up. i'm liking rick perry 2.0. i like somebody who gets after it is passionate about t i think he really wants to be president of the stwat. that's the peeing i'm getting from him. he had a nice rollout today, seems strong obviously in
better health remember last time when he had the back issues that was very tough for him because he had tremendous promise then. i don't count anybody out at this point. you never know what's going to happen. that's the great thing about american politics. >> last time when he was running he was also the governor of texas and now he's past that baton on to governor abbott. i think that he has been able to dedicate a significant amount of time to improving his speaking skills the delivery today was did -- it was a well written speech but also the delivery was a lot different than you would have seen three or four years ago when he was running against romney. at that time when he was up against romney he was actually doing pretty well but up physical that debate he was sort of sliding down before that debate where he forgot the third thing which all of us have done but he happened to do it on national television says oops and instead of being pore given for being a human moment he was ridiculed for it soon after
drops out of the race and mitt romney went on to be the nominee. i wouldn't count him out, i do think it's going to be a tough road for any of this candidates to try to break through. we're at the beginning of a race that is so flat that almost any of them could be picked out of the lineup and said he could be the nominee. >> greg he's tenth in a field that could be 20 or more. >> i want to congratulate dana as her new job as a cruise director of carnival cruise lines. >> top chef. >> and a rapper. >> she does the buff faye. the key here, like you said perry sounds great. i admire limb for getting back on the horse tu bu it doesn't make any difference if he keeps falling off. i would hope that he's doing for research is and he is' more well prepared because, again -- and i say this over and over again -- it's not enough to be right, because he is right, you've got to be intellectually analogy jiel and i think he can do it. i also kind of like the glasses. i don't think we've had a
president with glasses -- >> where are yours in. >> i sat on them. they're gone. since teddy roosevelt last guy with glasses? i can't think. did f stchlt r have fwlas? >> i didn't know him personally. >> fdr had grasses, i believe. i would like to see a president with a upon a cal. >> he had a great group of americans behind him. mark us and brandon catre. will ll. >> talking about her support for rick per yu and why she supports him i think that was one of her strongest advocates was taya kyle. >> one of the sprengs that rick perry has had is his job growth job creation in texas. he had had that oops moment but will the gop field voter get that oops moment behind them based on his record? >> you know the job creation is important, i think, but it's not the critical issue for republicans and i think that's
why you hear kimberly talk about the two seal team members behind preliminary in that picture there. top issue for republicans is national security. he says he is a' going hard on national security you heard him talk about not making excuses, america is going to be a force. i've got to tell you, i remember going through this with rick perry one time i hear by the way, that he doesn't have the boots this time. he kept the glasses but got rid of the boots. i think this is less of a campaign and more of a mia cull pa i think he's saying i'm sorry i let you guys down in '12 and there were a lot of people who were big behind him. he's not getting the am unfrom republicans. he's got very little margin for error and the me a cull pa is almost to his wife anita who was the one pushing him back in '12 when he wasn't ready, when he hadn't prepped, he had the back trouble. no you she says we will see how it goes. i think for him it's one last last stop before retirement. >> i think he really wants the
job. he has been serious about if for quite some time and now that stuff is behind him. let's see weak do. hillary clinton made an announcement today of a different kind a call for an expansion of early voting nationwide. >> today republicans are systematically and deliberately trying to stop millions of american citizens from voting. what part of democracy are they afraid of? i call on republicans at all levels of government with all manner of ambition to stop fear among ring about a phantom epidemic of election fraud. i'm calling for universal automatic voter registration every citizen in every state in the union. >> wow, tan na, what is behind this push? >> it's groundhog day. if you look at what rick perry was talking about, talking to the republican base hillary clinton is talking to the
democrats and this issue of voters' rights talk about a phantom issue. asked about specifics she probably couldn't have come up with any, but this will be something that republicans immediately -- they immediately put you on the again sieve, i'm not trying to prevent anybody from voting. it will take a little while to find out if there's anybody on the republican ticket who can approximate push back with facts and be persuasive. i think voting rights and a trying to figure out a way to make sure more people can register and get to the polls is what republicans have been for. if you look at governor daniels, haley are two that come to mind have increased their voter rolls. >> what's behind it greg? what do you think? >> i don't know. it's a very simple question what are your priorities? in an era of isis you've got iran you've got syria, you've got a crime wave right now in the united states and she's talking about this. democrats right now are in am a
fun house mirror view of the world where all of the priorities are skewed or reversed that can only be good for republicans. >> i'm still -- how is this better for hillary if she gets 20 extra days of early voting across the country? >> i tell you i feel like i'm in a different place today because i just -- dana i just think that when you say there are no facts, there are facts. there's no extension of voting rights act, she's speaking to a black audience down in texas, she is making a huge pitch for the black vote which of course came out for a black candidate in obama, but she has got to worry that she's not going to have that same passion coming out of minorities communities, hess' also going to make a pitch for the hispanic vote i suspect. greg this is not a mirror for black folks. they feel like there's a big effort across this country -- and this is speaking to dana's point, i disagree there is no evidence of voter fraud but you would think listening to the republicans there's voter fraud everywhere. >> i guess i'm not thinking -- you're right, i'm not thinking
about black votes, you're absolutely right, i'm thinking about american votes and american -- all americans, black or white have to be concerned about what's happening in this world. >> yeah. >> which is major terror threat. >> if you feel personally that people are trying to dis en franchise you -- >> how are you getting disenfranchised? still vote register to vote and get yourself to the polls and headache it count. i'm all for that. i want people to vote i want them to pay attention, get up and vote and care about this country, inform themselves about the issues and i also want them to not vote for somebody just based on gender or race. based on qualification. i don't understand where the evidence is >> you're requesting store a lot, kimberly. >> i mean, gosh you're right. >> it's worked up million now, hillary wants to revamp the system. this was amazing to me today though. a new challenger for hillary entered the race yesterday afternoon. former rhode island governor lincoln chafee is going to need some bold proposals if he's going to beat her out for the nomination so here is one.
>> earlier i said let's be bold. here is a bold embrace of internationalism. let's join the rest of the world and go metric. it's easy. it doesn't take long before 34 degrees is hot. and it will help our economy. >> so chafee -- >> it's like -- >> going metric the united states will be able to compete. the fir thing he would do as president would be turn the united states into the metric system. he's joined by his self described socialist and former secretary of state who can't find her way out of a scandal. nice job, democrats, so far. >> i think he's absolutely right, the metric system was designed to get people to enter charity runs. do you think you would go run a 3.1 mile race? no if somebody says 5k you go 5k sounds pretty impressive. besides, i enjoy the 2 liter bottles of coke.
i don't understand why a 40 is a quarter of beer when a 40 is 40 ounces. it's time to embrace the met interest trick system. you've got my vote. and his name is lincoln. that's another lincoln. >> it's also chafee. >> it can't hurt to have a new lincoln. >> even though it's not a first. >> and the chafe when you run a 5k. >> link.chafee. >> which is 3.2 miles if i'm not mistaken not 3.1. >> this is like a sesame street episode or something. >> it does look like a joke. i have a theory. it's going to be revealed in about six months that he's being paid by the clinton global initiative. that's how absurd it was. if i were a reporter you could come up with so many things to just say, governor chafee could you tell us how many inches in a meter? and see -- just play this game for nine months. >> he lived in canada for a while. >> maybe he can o do it. >> he is probably the one guy who would be able to do it. >> me and my husband. >> where is joe biden?
>> that's a great question. >> chafee with the metric system and a socialist how about joe biden? >> i was going to tell you -- joe biden is second in the fox poll that's out today. >> i like joe biden. >> joe biden is ahead of bernie sanders, bernie sanders is there and then you come way down -- chafee is not registers. i think it's a little bit of a joke. the metric thing i was like -- >> would you support biden over hillary? >> over hillary? no. >> would you support the metric system change? >> i don't know. i have to speak to my teacher. >> i think it could spark a war. >> i will say this in the polling it's interesting now who is out on the republican side for the top ten. no fiorina, no graham who i saw last night here in manhattan, no case sick no pat take no santorum no jindal. >> the fox debate is not based on the fox news poll -- >> i was just giving you -- i was just giving you -- >> based on the metric system. >> go lincoln, go lincoln.
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if you have young ones in the room you might want to have them step away. it's been two weeks since the duggar family's long time secret was revealed that the oldest child of 19 kids molested young girls when he was a teen. last night his parent spoke to fox news about the scandal. they said they heard the news directly from his son josh. >> he had just turned 14 and he said that he had actually improperly touched some of our daughters and it was -- >> we were socked. i mean we were just devastated. i don't think any parent is prepared for trauma like that. >> he had gone am and just basically touched them over their clothes while they were sleeping they didn't even know he had done it.
>> it was four daughters and there was a baby-sitter outside of the family. >> yes. >> okay. you notified her about the incident? >> yes. >> although the duggars understand why this has made national news they have blaming the juvenile justice system for letting this information get out, hurting the victims more than their son did. >> this information was released illegally and so i wonder why all this press is not going after the system for releasing the juvenile records. that is a huge story. >> they've been victimized more by what has happened in these last couple weeks than they were 12 years ago because they honestly -- they didn't even understand or know that anything had happened until after the fact when they were told about it. >> two of those victims revealed their identities on the kelly file duggars sister jessa and jill are very upset about this new violation of their privacy. >> people don't have a right to do this.
we're victims, this they can't do this to us. >> and yet they did? >> and they did. >> it was just a system that was set up to protect kids both those who make stupid mistakes or have problems like this in their life and the ones that are affected by those choices. it's just -- it's greatly failed. >> you will hear more from them in part two of megan's interview tomorrow night. she's here with us now to discuss. me goen that interview, very compelling television we're going to see more going forward. way wanted to know were you able to get some information were them whether aired or not about josh? what is he doing now in the aftermath of all of this? >> i think the family is still reeling. especially josh. obviously he has had to step down from his post at the family research council and the family doesn't know whether their tlc show is going to go forward, allowyou a though they said they are at piece with that. they have -- jim bob made his living on real estate and
they're doing okay i don't think they depend on the show for their livelihood. everyone is still reeling. you could really see it in the sit down that i had with the girls where they started off very bubbly your normal 22 wrerld 24-year-old birls, laughing even on the subject matter they were upbeat and talkative and then the more we got into it especially into the fact that it's been so publicized and they didn't disclose it at their owns choosing but it wound up -- it this touch weekly broke the story. to see the magazine covers house of horrors. they got very emotional and i think they really do feel the violation of their privacy. it's a separate piece of story. some people you talk about that and some people often following this say, you're trying to diminish what he did. no one is trying to tim initial anything these are sexual assault victims who are entitled to their privacy. those who want to go on tv and talk about the girls, the girls, this is wrong what i don't wish did was wrong. you're right. what the parents did in not reporting it immediately and so
on -- well, where is that same outrage at the fact that the girls' privacy, their sexual assault which we as news organizations koft to make private, we are not supposed to reveal the identity of sexual assault victims, adults or minors have done it with abandon, without even pausing in so many instances and it's wrong. >> reckless abandon causing further injury to them and that is part of the whole process when someone goes through this type of sexual assault, sexual abuse and it reignites and comes to the surface when you have to talk about it again. dana you have a question. >> were they totally blind-sided by this? did they have any idea it was coming? >> i asked them that. the story from the police chief this cathy owe kelly, i received a freedom of information act from a magazine and i had no information but to honor it. i have looked at the law, the law does not allow the disclosure of a juvenile's sealed record especially the
victims. but josh was a juvenile when he committed these acts, the law protects them for ran. we've made a decision as a society we're not going to hold them to the same standard as adults. only two exceptions to the rule if a judge orders it be released or if the juvenile is charged with a felony. neither of which happened in this case. i'm waiting, i've reached out to the police chief to you say explain why and the is it city attorney explain why you did it. what was the reason. no response. but we know that the judge in the case, date after this was released said everything gets destroyed. that's it. i want every copy of this police record test it roid. so the judge is on the side of the duggars when it comes to this exposure this violation. >> eric you have a question into their motivation me goen, why did they agree to do this. >> i think they're looking to release some of the pressure. i think the family was moving along on their tlc reality show then this broke -- they're hugely popular. i had never seen the show. i knew who they were but i had never watched the show but the
daughter's wedding, one of the daughters who we showed there it was the highest rated show on tlc in years when she got married. so this is you know this is something they do. i think that they were shocked to see their story wind up in a magazine and then the way it spread it was wildfire. everybody put them on the cover, their magazines and put them in their shows and so on without a pause for what it would mean and i think they felt like they had to speak out about it at this point. >> greg. >> i honestly do not get the appeal. if i want to see 19 kids i will go to chuck e cheese. this is a whole world that i have no interest in it but i will say this. what's interesting to me how did the family research council hire this guy? this is the most try dent organization when it comes to what they perceive to be as deefiansy and they chose this guy because he was famous no doubt, and somehow they were all right with this? i mean i'm sorry.
>> why do you say they were all right with it? we haven't yet established that they knew anything about it. >> why did they make him president? >> but you are assuming they knew about it. >> yeah i ask assume. i thought they did. didn't he tell them? i thought he did tell this hem. >> no that has not been established. >> i thought i read that somewhere. >> it's one thing if they knew if they knew and gave them this job that's a problem for him because the hypocrisy angle is real. i asked the duggars about it. a lot of families have issues in their past especially if you're going to look at somebody's behavior in the teens, it's not always ideal, it's not always this bad. >> the other hypocrisy is the publicity, moaning about publicity while you have your family on tv for years. >> and i asked them about that because they had gotten through this the investigation had concluded, they told the police the plates ultimately investigated. what would make you go on and launch a reality tv show about your family if you've weathered the storm. they said, look, there was
growing interest in our family, it started off with an hour long special someone wanted to do and it morphed into more and more. we thought this was behind us. we thought the family had moved on, we dealt with it and that the records were sealed and our children would be protected from this particular thing. they were obviously wrong. >> part of this is that's so interesting to me. you are going to now talk to the victims, spend more time on the victims now having talked to the duggars and heard their laments about the way the press treated them. i'm watching last night and thinking the girls chose to come on and talk to megan and then i see in the morning papers their names were identified and several papers that said we normally don't identify victims of sexual abuse but these girls are talking to they outed themselves. do you have that sense? >> they have. th like the horse was brought to the water and the nose was put right over the water and now the girls are letting the horse drink. it's like -- it was right there. it was very easy to tell -- it was clear from the police report
that the daughters had been victims, the only question was which towers. these two have chosen to identify themselves as two but the reason i think they felt compelled to do it if you look at the courage there is a strong implication in a lot of the courage we've seen that there was a rape that it was repeated that this is a serial child no it lester. >> you are not talking to the baby-sitter. >> outside. i don't even know that person's identity to this moment. >> okay. >> i don't think they wanted people thinking they had been raped. they see a difference between rape and over their clothes, you know while sleeping -- >> wasn't all over the clothes. >> no it wasn't. >> okay. >> nevertheless it is very serious. the situation here with the molestation for me as a prosecutor who tried child abuse and molestation cases a lot of times this is learned behavior there is a sirk tans where someone has been exposed to i'm just telling you.
>> you are right. >> i imagine there is more to the story. >> believe me i want there with them and you will see that tomorrow night when we air our interview with them. >> now you know you don't want to miss. it thanks. catch part two of her exclusive interview with the duggars tomorrow night on the kelly file. next greg on the crime crisis in new york city under mayor bill deblasio's watch. stay tuned. let's take a look at your credit. >>i know i have a 786 fico score, thanks to experian.com. so what else are you going to throw in? leather seats? >>and this... get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian.
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first an apologizing to the rest of the country, this is go b. new york and it's decline. the deblasio experiment must stop. since this may i don't remember got in the city is drifted toward the old school hell of rape murder and assault. it's the progressive left's talent of taking a place and defile it. want to talk about a war on woman? yesterday a transgendered woman was pushed on to the subway
tracks. part three, a woman was beaten and raped by three 16 year olds they left her bleeding to go ransack her apartment. so is far this year central park was home to six rapes. this time last year none. it's all happening during a crime wave under this left wing lurch. of the 135 homicides through may 98 were gun related up from the 69 at this point the last two years. the mayor blames this on a few high crime areas. that's a message to his white liberal supporters don't worry, you're safe in your door man buildings. so as he dee means cops kill stop and brisk which would have prevented gun deaths he let's the criminally unstable roam the streets like a real world version of the walking dead. these are the bubbles on the surface and it's about to boil over. we've got to dump this dangerous joke. whether you are a city dweller or tourist you may be next. if it's not you it will be someone you know. >> i want to run a clip of this
is the mayor explaining his successful drop in crime numbers. >> overall crime is down 6.6% in this city compared to the same point last year. that is a remarkable achievement. there has been obviously an uptick in homicides and shootings. it is something we take very very seriously. that being said we know for sure that the increase in both murders and shootings has occurred in a small number of precincts. >> and rape. over all kg crime stats are down because of decline in robberies. rape and assault are up. don't you think people would prefer to be robbed? >> i mean my gosh when choosing -- this is new york city now. hi welcome to new york city. thank you. please send your pun here, we want to welcome all the tourists you might get slashed in the face or raped but would
you prefer to get robbed? this is crazy. all of the gains that we had made in this city about making it a safer place, a model for the rest of the country, the rest of the world to see in terms of community safety neighborhoods and exceptional policing have now been like swept away like a deck of cards across the floor. you know i know who to blame, too. >> is this because of stop and frisk? >> bill deblasio, his reckless and effectless leadership. >> is the number one issue the end of stop and frisk. >> i think the foremost -- if i had to say and percentaged it out i would say that has the greater percentage of it. in the larger picture it's bill deblasio and his liberal leadership. >> don't you think that the packet that he ran on this and the people voted him into office is an indication a lot of people are upset about that tactic -- >> no i don't. >> people in communities aren't upset. they want it back they're watching their neighbors getting shot. >> it was very very small voter
turnout unfortunately. i hope people learned a lesson turning out to the polls. >> eric the rise in crime also in part deblasio's dis owning of the police department has hurt their morale it's not not that they're not to go their job. >> no, they are do the job. again again, as rudy juliay points out, if you point the finger at the cops and they are the ones who have to run to the bad guy or into the store or into the fire they may hesitate for a second and that's the difference between a crime rate being x or higher. i'm drying to figure out how bill deblasio can claim violent crime is down 6.6% a year ago and uptick recently. there would have to be a massive drop and i don't think that's necessarily the case. >> metric system. >> let me give you one business angle to this joker of a mayor. the west side of new york is vast from about the '30s all
the way up to the '60s they've decided to do a five-year construction project on every east to west street on the west side and two avenues. it encompasses about 30% of the city. all at once for five years. now, if you had any sense in the world he would to it rolling over the course of years, take a small section then two years later do another section. instead he is doing it all at once. this is bipartisan by the way. he's stifling business and traffic in manhattan. i guarantee the numbers that come back -- >> try living over there. >> the numbers for revenue for the city are going to be slammed this year. >> dana one thing we talked about is where do you put people who are mentally ill? jails and shelters are temporary cots. that's something that maybe a mayor could think about. >> it's always the root cause of everything we go back to. >> yeah. >> also crime goes up usually in the summer and also people who might have chosen to be in that homeless shelter in the winter they don't like to be there, we
know this by ant he can tote and then they find hair way into another place, we actually should be trying to help them. i walk on broadway often and there's one gentleman i see him there every day and he's obviously in total distress. i don't know how to help him, there's people you could call a number -- i did call a number one time in the city and you got call -- >> 311. >> i try to put myself in his shoes if i'm the mayor he's under an amazing amount of political pressure to turn things around crimewise in the city. i don't know what it would take for him to actually have the can have tens to know that either the business community or his base is behind him, but somebody should tell him it will be okay for your legacy if you try to reverse some of the things you've put in place. >> try not to be such a thars assist. do the right thing and care about black lives and all lives in new york city. >> they're throwing additional officers into high crime areas. >> he created the situation. >> you just want to blame him. >> he is to blame.
his progressive failed policies. he is the new dingen. >> this is all about stop and frisk, isn't it? >> i will answer the same question again. >> he should resign. ahead what retired four star general david petraeus thinks america needs to to differently this in our war against isis. asy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners... were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. start shopping online... ...from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. for the millions of americans suffering from ringing in their ears, there's no such thing as quiet time. but you can quiet the ringing with lipo-flavonoid, the number-one doctor-recommended brand. relieve the ringing with lipo-flavonoid.
the commander of u.s. forces during the wars in iraq and afghanistan is very concerned about the growing threat of isis. >> isis clearly is a threat to the united states to our allies and partners around the world. >> so what should we do? here is what general david petraeus suggests. >> i don't know that you need a whole new strategy. what you need to do is look at what you have figure out where you need to august m. do we need to bring advisors down to brigade level, for example? should there be teams of tactical air controllers on the ground with a lot of security service. >> should there be? >> i think there certainly should be. >> is there risk to losing
lives? >> certainly risk. these are fights if where if you're not winning you're probably losing. >> and we are not winning? >> well it's arguable now am in iraq. >> rim berl i thought he was trying to be gentle in his criticism. bauchl administration but i think he was coming out saying we've got real problem. >> he was trying to approach it in a diplomatic way, but i think the message was clear. much more should be done can be ton in a strategic way so it's not just you know running hot shot putting large amounts of boots on the ground. he's saying strategic advisors join task force with hair controllers, heavy secured and guarded, perhaps also augmenting at the brigade level. all these things make sense to me especially if the goal is truly in fact to try and destroy isis and restore some balance to the middle east. >> eric general petraeus was certainly well regarded by both administrations, he was relieved of his command after the -- a
revelation that he had provided assets to classified information to the woman who was writing his memoire. that is behind him, he is i think, now willing to step out back into the public eye. do you think that the administration would pay attention to him now? >> i think they should if they're not already. i mean, i don't know that they're not already listening to some of his ideas and hopefully they are. i think he was being very political there by not saying -- he didn't say -- most people come out and say what is our strategy in we don't have a strategy we need to mix it. he said maybe we need to retweak the current strategy. maybe he is talking to them. >> i don't into en to break in here but i can tell you he's talking to them. >> good. so they're listening to him. hopefully they hear what he has to say and win this or go after isis. you know everyone has a different idea lindsey graham would say put 10,000 troops
there, add another 10,000 and people them there for 100 years. then petraeus makes great points get advisors on the ground. >> i agree on the isis point, but one thing concern is he's saying there is not a strategy for isis or in the middle east. what about overall, we're looking at a generational war against an ideology of evil it's not just the isis piece. >> it's a sad state we're in we can't even unite against real evil these face. in the old days you know we rose up and hot hitler and both democrats and republicans despised anti-communism but the media these days think christian bakers are worse than islamic bee headers. we've totally recast the where had of evil. also the point he was making which we said many times is there may be risk now. if you put it off the risk is greater later. the argument is if you keep saying it's not our fight it will only lead to bigger and more and more terrible fights
and then you will have to go in there and -- >> let me just quickly mention here there was something that happened and i thought struck me as spin coming from the bawl folks today which is one of the secretary of state said we've killed 10,000 member of isis a. this had been classified before. there are only about 20,000 or 30,000 estimated on the ground and suddenly i think with all the criticism coming from this table maybe they said we need to mention how many of these terrorists we've killed which is a substantial number. >> they broke protocol with that too. >> they sure did. >> probably not the best idea to start getting into body counts based on -- >> sounds like vietnam. >> exactly. next on "the five" does being a jerk have its perks? stay tuned. this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. well, put on a breathe right strip
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if you're not getting ahead at work or other parts of your life it may be a result of being too nice according to analysis by the atlantic magazine jerk have advantages. >> some jerkish behavior actually does get you ahead. >> like? >> overconfidence for one. if you just act like -- you speak first -- act like you know all the answers, body language breaking small rules, taking the
last toe nut from the dish. people will look at you and say that person must really know her or his stuff otherwise they probably wouldn't try to get away from that. >> let's talk to the two nicest people at the table, we begin with kimberly guilfoyle. you think the jerks, especially male jerks come off as powerful get the girls and contradict reese. >> i think there's equal measure in men and women, it's a very individual thing. we were just talking about the doughnut and i go i hate it when people take the last doughnut. other people around if you've had had one you should wait to make sure that everybody else gets one. if the room is pretty much emptied out and there's a lonely doughnut then what? >> dana perino is ms. nice so here we are. is it the case -- you disagree. let's pretend that you are steve jobs and you say i'm going to take charge and be a jerk around here. >> well i would say in management of an office or issue
i'm not nice i just get it undid. what i do see in new york and i am amazed is how many rich women will complain about the cost of something and get things for free. it's amazing. for women i think that's where if you just look and see somehow how they do it, it's -- i would never want to be like them but i can see why they save money >> does this happen when you're cleaning their teeth? >> you do look like my dentist. >> i cannot wait to take this jacket off, by the way. >> wait a second. in real life though if you act like you are at jerk and you are the king people start treating you that way. >> there is a logical explanation for all this. jerk equals nars cyst. right if that's pretty close correlation according to the research. nars assists tend to be risk takers risk takers happen to do general in general in businesses so jerk equals nascar assist is equals risk taker, it core a lates. >> how does that work in politics? >> men tend to be more risk
takers bigger risk takers. i would say, yes, it's skewed to nars assist i can jerks are typically -- >> but, greg at either end, it's like a bell curve, people who are differential people also are considered to do well but on the other end people are jerks. >> this article was reverse engineered. the guy looked at successful people who happen to be jerks and then he went backwards, you could have done that with nice people. so this is all baloney. the real jerk is the guy who wrote the article. >> this is why it pays to have someone who was an editor -- >> one more thing coming at you. feel secure in your dentures... feel free to be yourself all day. just switch from denture paste to sea-bond denture adhesive seals. holds stronger than the leading paste all day... without the ooze. feel secure. be yourself. with stronger, clean sea-bond. my lenses have a sunset mode. and a partly sunny mode. and an outside to inside mode. transitions® lenses automatically filter just the right amount of light. ask for transitions xtractive lenses. extra protection from light... outdoors
time for a quick one more thing. dana approximate kicks it off. >> a story that i think you've probably been covering this. >> wait dana hold on. mini me wants his jacket back. >> well you know we share a stylist. >> dana, hurry. obamacare, remember president obama said that healthcare premiums were going to go down guess what they're not going down. across the board health insurers for people on individual market plans, these are your small business owner they are going up at least 10%. here are some examples more than that. blue cross/blue shield of illinois 29% up. in pennsylvania 30% and texas a firm there looking to raise rates by 32 pr. this is absolutely having an impact on the economy and will pay a role in the 2016 election.
>> keep your plan if you want to up 32%. i had a chance today to go over to abc to the view to talk about my book making the case and got to sit down with the ladies of view they were asking about fox news and about the women here and how do we all get along and also talking about the attractiveness of women and i said -- >> did you lie? >> you have to watch and find out. take a look. >> there isn't this this like jealousy or animosity at fox. we lift each other up. that's why i love working there. we support each other. everybody there has 4.0, magna do you mean laud community service. >> kind of like us. >> kind of like you guys bringing it. >> it was a lot of fun, you saw molly simms there and whoopee and joy bay har came back. >> what's that show called? >> the view. >> good job. >> like "the five." >> all right. so last night there was a benefit called true blue and it benefited the families of fallen officers rafael ramos, win jen
lue and brian moore attended and played by joe torii, bill could you we are a couple other big stars and hen this guy right here check it out. roll the video. >> is he going to hit it? >> chris christie he steps up to the plate, check it out. >> that was good. >> the governor by the way, a former fantastic baseball player in high school and little league. anyway moving on they raised a lot of money for a good cause. >> are let me show you this video, 91-year-old walter thompson suburban chicago had a bucket list and he wanted to crash through the garage door. here it goes. >> one, two, three. >> wow. >> go get them walter. >> real quick, congratulations to tom shaloo who is the new host of red eye. everybody knows tom from the tooif and red eye, he is an
awesome guy, he was on jimmy fallon a lot, he was on "the daily show" as well. good job, tom. welcome to red eye. see you later. welcome to washington i'm bret baier and this is a fox news alert. a cyber security breach has exposed the personal information of millions of federal employees, the department of homeland security and the fbi are investigating tonight the case that could affect every federal agency. correspondent kevin corke has the rateest on this breaking toer from the white house >> reporter: security experts tell us this is just the latest example of an ongoing cyber war with china for the second time in less than a year we are told that back in december client niese hackers accessed the office of personnel management computers and in the process they may have been able to breach the personal